what came out because the same day he testified we had outgoing secretary of defense panetta, went to testify on benghazi and told us what we learned. two weeks ago, we talked last week about the difference between what panetta and clinton said about iran versus hagel, and two weeks ago when they went on "60 minutes" we called it the biggest pay off in history. in that show, i remember suggesting one of the reasons that came out of hillary clinton's testimony was interesting to pursue, what was the president doing? we now know the president wasn't engaged. they had a 5:15 minute meeting that was preplanned and he did not talk to secretary of defense, clinton, and according to panetta, talked to no one. what we have a foreign policy that is coming apart. >>gregg: you were in the carter administration. all hands on deck the. >> the president himself, for ten, 15, 20 hours a day, in the middle of the greatest moments of this, involved himself personally. we were trying to get them out the day they flew home we were there all night and the next morning up until the time of the inauguratio